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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dom Bish]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/<p>Markets go up, markets go down… Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WhatsApp Email Print Markets go up, markets go down. This is the nature of economic and market cycles. This can be worrying when investing for the short-term. However, KiwiSaver is a &#8230; <a href="https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/markets-go-up-markets-go-down/">Read More</a></p>
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				<p>Markets go up, markets go down. This is the nature of economic and market cycles. This can be worrying when investing for the short-term. However, KiwiSaver is a long-term investment. Unfortunately, the media like to jump on stories to make headlines. Highlighting how much people are ‘losing’ helps feed the fear that people are somehow ‘doing it wrong’. In broad-brush terms, someone in the thirties can expect to have another 3-5 ‘down markets’ or even recessions before they are 65 years old. These market swings tend to happen every 7-10 years. What we know from the long-term data, is that the trendline is generally on the up, given enough time.</p><p>To help visualise these market gyrations, take a look at the following four graphs on US data (these go back a <em>long</em> way). The first shows the volatility of bond yields, which go all the way back to 1714.</p>					</div>
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				<p>For the second, we can also look to the long-term US interest rates and see how these move over long periods of time.</p>					</div>
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				<p>We can look at the rolling one-year swings for the US S&amp;P 500 back to 1927.</p>					</div>
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				<p>I fully appreciate that someone in their sixties will not take any comfort from the losses endured over the last little while. Approaching retirement and watching the value of your retirement nest-egg diminishing would be disheartening for anyone. That said, it pays to keep KiwiSaver in perspective. It is meant to be a supplement to our retirement plan, it is not meant to be the whole plan. It is meant to be a long-term investment. That is part of its power. That <em>time</em> period, in the ‘time value-of-money’ equation, allows the principal and interest to compound, thereby giving far greater returns, than if you stuck your money under the mattress.</p><p>This final chat highlights my comment in the first paragraph. Generally, given enough time, the returns improve</p>					</div>
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				<p>This <a href="https://monevator.com/too-big-to-scale-understanding-long-term-stock-market-returns-and-graphs/">article</a> helps explain how just viewing different charts can give us the wrong perspective. If you are interested in a deeper dive, I recommend you take a look. When we hear of ‘massive losses’ or the horror word “recession”, along with all the blame that goes with it (Political Party ‘A’ did this while Political Party ‘B’ didn’t do that), everything gets lost in the noise.</p><p>Step back from the noise. Markets go up, markets go down.</p><p>Now to the KiwiSaver providers themselves. Here we go on a separate roller-coaster ride. As the article from <a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/129398002/kiwisaver-updates-to-investors-detail-multibillion-dollar-losses">Rob Stock</a> last week pointed out, not all providers are created equally. Some are managing their inevitable losses better than others.</p><p>An interesting point to make, is that some of the largest or most popular funds in NZ are not actually NZ-managed funds. They are being managed by the mega-corporations such as Vanguard and Blackstone. Part of the fees being changed to New Zealanders are for the NZ logo to go on a non-NZ fund.</p><p>Fees, are the next hotbed of debate. The article made mention of the wholesale nature of some of these funds not passing along those savings to consumers. Many of these funds are ‘passive’ and therefore do not need a large, highly trained team of portfolio managers. Being passive, these funds track the indices of the markets in which they play. And here we come to the last part about KiwiSaver, the interaction of performance and market volatility.</p><p>Active fund managers, so we are told, like to think that they have skill in making investments outside of the index tracking that their ‘passive’ cousins like to make. This is really only part of the story. Some ‘active’ funds have been found to charge as ‘active’ but in reality, to be more closely ‘passive’ actors. Many funds in New Zealand are only mandated to invest in stock and bonds (&amp; cash). This limits their opportunities to trying to ‘time’ the markets. Many market commentators will lambast how silly it is to even try such a strategy. Fair enough too. One comment from the recent FMA report in May said “performance data shows skill is present among some (not all) fund managers in the pilot study”.</p><p>So, what then? What if the above-mentioned investing mandate were different? Well, one basic investing strategy is to use diversification. There are many other ways to invest, not just with stocks and bonds. Commodities, futures and other vehicles can add not just depth but breadth to the investors’ portfolio. Good fund managers will have strategies ready <u>prior</u> to the inevitable down-turns, and will not be content to go with the flow of the index. Good fund managers will actively deploy various down-side mitigation tactics so that while their clients may have losses, those losses won’t be as extreme as they might have been, if the overseas mega corporations’ funds were blindly followed.</p><p>For New Zealand, long-term saving and investing is relatively new for most people. KiwiSaver is only 15 years old. As the fund balances start to increase, above the $23,000-odd level that it is today, we will see more and more discussion about KiwiSaver. This is a good thing. More people need to be actively involved in their own saving and retirement decisions. We have a vibrant KiwiSaver market, active with many choices and participants. This is a good thing. While it is worthwhile to check your provider every now and then, be wary of flipping your fund on every downcast article that you read. Remember that the power of KiwiSaver is time. Time and the ability to compound the returns to exaggerate the amount you hope to see in retirement.</p><p><em>Disclosure:</em><br /><em>Dominic and Bolster Risk Management are resellers of <a href="https://www.nzfunds.co.nz/">NZ Funds</a> KiwiSaver products.</em><br /><em>Read more <a href="https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/about/company-information/">here</a>.</em></p>					</div>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2020 23:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/<p>We hear a lot in media sources about high fees for KiwiSaver. We also hear how people are not getting enough advice about financial products like KiwiSaver. Who is correct? Key Points: What do your pay for? What the Regulators &#8230; <a href="https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/kiwisaver-low-fees-yet-you-still-want-advice-with-that/">Read More</a></p>
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				<p>We hear a lot in media sources about high fees for KiwiSaver. We also hear how people are not getting enough advice about financial products like KiwiSaver. Who is correct?</p><p><strong>Key Points:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>What do your pay for?</strong></li><li><strong>What the Regulators (and industry) wants</strong></li><li><strong>Who decides?</strong></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>What do your pay for?</strong></p><p>What are the fees, what do you get and where is the value?</p><p>There are commentators who advise we should always go for the lowest fees when selecting our KiwiSaver provider. There is sense in this because fees, compounded over time, will take a slice out of your end balance. The greater the fees, the greater the slice.</p><p>However, things are not always as simple as that. Not all providers are the same. How they invest, whether they are <em>passive</em> or <em>active</em> investors, how diverse their investments are and what percentage of the total portfolio is allocated to each particular asset class or which geographic markets they are in&#8230; there can be quite a list of differences. All of which effect your end balance. I have written about the <a href="https://bolsterriskmanagement.com/money-matters/kiwisaver-passive-active-fees/">passive vs active debate before</a>, so will not revisit that here.</p><p>There was a report recently by MyFiduciary on behalf of the FMA (August 2020). One of most interesting things for me were the key findings saying that just because a fund claims to be ‘active’ and charge high fees accordingly, it may not be much more active than a standard passive fund.</p><p>So what are you paying for? The theory goes that you pay higher fees for active fund management.  Not just to ‘buy low and sell high’ in timing and speculation, but to take long-term positions on trends across diverse markets. These active managers also take positions that can mitigate the downside risks, from events such as what we’ve seen this year.</p><p>If you are paying for an active fund, yet that fund is basically passive, then yes, that is cause to be upset.</p><p>But what if you don’t know the difference between passive investing across index funds and active funds management? What if my previous couple of paragraphs are all gibberish to you? That’s fine, but in that case how do you go about getting advice? How do you discuss those differences to see if you want to invest this way or that?</p><p>And that’s the rub.</p><p>If you want to know more about your KiwiSaver, who do you call? When was the last time your KiwiSaver provider called you, or sat you down to have a good conversation with you about your investment (in some cases, possibly the biggest investment in your life)?</p><p> </p><p><strong>What the Regulators (and industry) wants</strong></p><p>Our financial services industry is going through another massive regulatory change. Two reasons for this (not the only two) are a) the knock-on effects from the Australian finance sector debacle a few years ago, and b) a desire from the regulators that clients have a better understanding of the financial products they are buying.</p><p>Just today, I read another article lamenting the low financial literacy in New Zealand. Many of us in the industry know that we must do better. To educate and guide our clients. My observation of many advisers suggest that this is part of good behaviour and is done be many anyway. Yet how does this effect KiwiSaver clients?</p><p>We know from an FMA report a few years back that only 3 in 1000 KiwiSaver clients were being ‘serviced’ or called and engaged with regularly. So how do clients learn more about their investments when they have such low and infrequent contact with their providers?</p><p>One solution to this is to use financial advisers like myself. We tend to have far more regular engagement with our clients. Many of us will provide other services (such as life insurance), and so have a deeper connection than a bank might with their typical KiwiSaver client.</p><p>However, there is a cost to service these clients. Banks and large providers factor their own costs and work on volume. The more clients they have the lower the fees, yet also, typically, the lower their engagement with clients.</p><p>The FMA, the regulators, the media commentators and industry want consumers to be more informed and have more understanding about the products they engage in. Great. Who is going to pay for that?</p><p>All these regulatory changes are supposed to help the consumer, and this is a good thing. Yet… who pays for that advice? Everyone wants to have more engagement and face time with clients, yet many people also want low fees.</p><p>To be blunt, you get what you pay for.</p><p><strong>Who Decides?</strong></p><p>The clients decide, by where they go, how much engagement and professional advice they want. If they don’t want advice about their KiwiSaver fund, if it still meets their needs, if their circumstances haven’t changed, then sure, a low-cost service is fine. But don’t then complain that this person is not getting enough <em>client love</em>.</p><p>If you want people to get advice, someone needs to pay for it. If you don’t want providers charging high fees, fine – but don’t then expect consumers to have a load of regular contact with their provider.</p><p>There are providers who charge high fees, who upon closer inspection, are not as active as they purport. But we also have a huge amount of market choice for consumers. What is needed is greater education around <u>all</u> factors within that market choice, not just discussions about “passive investing” or “low fees”.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><em>DISCLOSURE – Bolster Risk Management provide Class Advice on NZ FUNDS &amp; BOOSTER KiwiSaver.</em></span></p><p> </p>					</div>
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